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    Twee big bangs.

    http://internationalreporter.com/news/read.php?id=852

    Water Ice on Temple 1 confirms Icy Era of Two Big Bang Theory
    MIL, Feb 4, 2006. P.Pagella


    Rome - The theory of Two Big Bangs as hypothesized by Dr. Raj Baldev in his book ‘Two Big Bangs Created the Universe’ (Formed in Eternal Space) released in 2003 is now picking up a right thread among the scientists.

    Comet Tempel 1, which created a flamboyant Fourth of July fireworks display in space last year, is found covered with a small amount of water ice and this is closely related and confirms the theory of Two Big Bang rather than the theory of one Big Bang.

    As per the release of the Brown University, these results are reported by members of NASA's Deep Impact team in an advanced online edition of Science, offer the first definitive evidence of surface ice on any comet.

    "We have known for a long time that water ice exists in comets, but this is the first evidence of water ice on comets," said Jessica Sunshine, Deep Impact co-investigator and lead author of the Science article.

    Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist from India, has already given a theory of Two Big Bangs about the creation of the Parent Universe and he tried to establish that ours is one of great many Universes and not the only Universe that exists and as we know.

    Dr. Raj Baldev explained in the above book that there were two Big Bangs and not single Bang as accepted by the scientists as a standard theory. The timing of the Two big bang, however, matches with the one Big Bang theory.

    Dr. Baldev has outstandingly traced the pre-history of the Big Bang and given in the form of his book. Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, President of India, is also a great scientist himself. The President was pleased to invite Dr. Raj Baldev and had discussion about his theory after the author presented the copy to the President. He recommended that the theory should be debated. He appreciated even to the extent “if Chandershekhar Limit could be there, why not Raj Baldev limit?”

    Dr. Raj Baldev gave the hypothesis of the origin of the Universe in eight phases, some portion of which is given as under:

    Dr. Raj Baldev termed the first phase as ‘unknown period’, since there was nothing in the beginning except space and dark even though the scientists claim that the space was created along with the explosion called Big Bang. About dark, the scientists also cannot explain. If dark had been non-existent in the beginning where from could it come?

    Dr. Baldev, in fact, has researched for over a decade and some record suggests that the period of his research work has been for over 50 years or since 1953. However, he has very ably attempted to trace the pre-history of the Big Bang in his book “Two Big Bangs Created the Universe” (Formed in Eternal Space) for the first time in the world history.

    Dr. Raj Baldev feels that the scientists have failed to provide the original source of the explosive material of gases supposed to be condensed at a particular point before detonating. It is, therefore, neither fair nor justified for the scientists to claim that the one or single Big Bang occurred from nothing about 15 billion years ago and produced Gamma rays causing temperature of trillions of degrees and led to the formation of the Universe. This requires re-thinking.

    Dr. Raj Baldev clarifies that the Big Bang of course created the Universe and it is not wrong. The scientists are wrong only on the other part for having left the basic portion of its pre-history unattended - what caused it to explode when there was nothing in existence, not even space. His other main difference that he holds is there were two big bangs and not one.

    Dr. Raj Baldev’s argument has very strong points but it looks very hard for the scientists particularly the supporters of the one or single Big Bang theory to have a re-look at their established hypothesis vs. Two Big Bang Theory. The scientists take the single Big Bang as a standard theory and do not wish to improve or alter any of its parts. Such rigidity should not be there in the area of education or world knowledge.

    The other dissent reason by Dr. Raj Baldev is that scientists and astronomers have been re-claiming the theory of single Big Bang as correct on the basis of Hubble’s finding of red shift which supports the theory of expanding of the Universe at an accelerated speed.

    Even on this poin, Dr. Raj Baldev has explained that the Universe, in fact, is not expanding but these are the galaxies alone that are being shifted to different circuits by the dark energy. There are seven circuits according to Dr. Raj Baldev, the last being unlimited, the shifting is being done or organized by the nature in its proper circuit. Dr. Raj Baldev asserts that Universe is not expanding, the space being eternal.

    Dr. Raj Baldev also disagrees on other points. He says that the theory of single or one Big Bang does not match with the laws of the physics. According to scientists, there was nothing before the Big Bang, either space or dark or any energy. In that condition, he says, how an explosion of any nature could take place in absence of an explosive reservoir in the space? Law is also eternal and cannot change, as per Dr. Raj Baldev. He seeks from the scientists to justify, “How could any explosion occur without the existence of space?”

    So to pick up the theory from the middle rather than from the first point of the Creation, the claim of scientists has become weak and questionable. They claim that Big explosion called Big Bang occurred from nothing without going deep into the pre-history of this theory. It is, therefore, unfair on their part to accept the Big Bang as a standard theory without fulfilling other obligations of its pre-history what was there before the Big Bang, it is important to complete the answer.

    If scientists and astronomers accept Big Bang as an approved theory on one hand, then they also become bound on the other hand to provide proper answer of the basic original incoming source of material before the Big Bang that created the Universe.

    Dr. Raj Baldev gave different eras in his book “Two Big Bangs Created the Universe” (Formed in Eternal Space):

    First era or phase: Space was in existence being eternal and unlimited but it was inactive, ineffective and powerless at that time. Dark too was in existence being eternal and unlimited and it was similarly inactive, ineffective and powerless at that time. Atmosphere was void, empty and ineffective.

    There was the 'Primeval Particle' existing at a particular point of the space, either as created part of the closest association between the space and dark or it was already there or it sprang up independently. Without the Primeval Particle, nothing could exist, nor we. So the Primeval Particle was very much there, there can be no denial.

    The Primordial Particle was then dormant and sleepy, either it was also eternal or it became eternal thereafter. It is assumed to be at the naval or some strategic point of space, about 1 trillion, 250,015 billion years ago. This calculation is mathematical.

    Due to shortage of space and to avoid unnecessary length, I would like to point out that the Fourth phase was that of the Icy Era. Time taken to develop and to stay in space was 270,000 billion years. In the fifth phase, it took 230,000 billion years to change into hot gases. It looks ridiculous but it is mathematically correct, you will be convinced if you read the book with impartial and scholarly mind.

    In the eighth phase, the second big bang occurred about 14 billion years with a gap of 1 billion years between the two explosions and the second created the Universe.

    Dr. Raj Baldev said: “ It is just a common sense when the icy planets may exist in the space today like Uranus and Neptune, the icy mountain balls could also form similar shapes in the then space before creation of any Universe.

    The ice engulfed the entire space in course of time and gave formation to the icy mountains to amass and develop in the space under the gravitation law since there was absolute minus zero temperature.

    The icy mountains were bound to fall at the Central Reservoir of the whirlpool by its strong gravitation power. As per Dr. Raj Baldev, the Central Reservoir acted as the Primordial Black Hole, and it ate up the substantial quanity of gases and the icy material of the icy mountains and recycled it later on in the form of two big bangs with a gap of 1 billion years between the two explosions. One explosion occurred 15 billion years ago and the other final Big Bang exploded 14 billion years back.

    “Whatever happened at the time of Big Bang and whatever different properties of matter, energy and gases are there in the Universe today, everything was then available in the Parent Universe in some form or the other after the space was woven according to Dr. Raj Baldev.

    Now imagine when it was ice all over with absolute minus zero temperature and the space was filled with icy mountains of the sizes of the planets and present size stars how could it look like?”

    Now you can see yourself that temple 1 has water ice. The chief scientist with Science Applications International Corporation who holds three Brown University degrees, Sunshine said the discovery offers important insight into the composition of comets - small, Sun-orbiting space travelers that are believed to be leftovers from the formation of the solar system. (It is based on the forumula as explained by Dr. Raj Baldev in his book).

    "Understanding a comet's water cycle and supply is critical to understanding these bodies as a system and as a possible source that delivered water to Earth," she said. "Add the large organic component in comets and you have two of the key ingredients for life."

    Other part of the story by NASA on Deep Impact Mission of Comet 1 is given as under:

    The findings help satisfy one of the major goals of the Deep Impact mission: Find out what is on the inside - and outside - of a comet.

    To that end, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory teamed with the University of Maryland to slam a space probe into Tempel 1, then analyze materials from the comet's surface and interior. On July 4, 2005, mission members hit their mark when the copper-tipped probe collided with Tempel 1 and created a spectacular extraterrestrial explosion 83 million miles from Earth.

    Since then, the Deep Impact team has reported a few key findings. These include an abundance of organic matter in Tempel 1's interior as well as its likely origins - the region of the solar system now occupied by Uranus and Neptune.

    According to the new research in Science, the comet's surface features three pockets of thin ice. The area the ice covers is small. The surface area of Tempel 1 is roughly 45 square miles or 1.2 billion square feet. The ice, however, covers roughly 300,000 square feet. And only 6 percent of that area consists of pure water ice. The rest is dust.

    "It's like a seven-acre skating rink of snowy dirt," said Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences at Brown, Deep Impact co-investigator and co-author on the Science paper.

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    Ik heb al eens eerder over deze theorie gelezen en nu nog maar eens.
    Het onderstreept alvast enkele van men eigen bevindingen waaronder, je kunt geen big bang hebben zonder de ruimte er voor....het is nu eenmaal mijn logica dat je niets kunt crieren zonder de ruimte er voor de hebben.

    Nu, die twee big bangs verklaren veel, MAAR dan zit je weer met een ander groot probleem.....hoe komen die twee big bangs er dan.
    Je verklaart wel de ene big bang maar niet de andere, dus blijft de vraag voor mij het zelfde, hoe kon er zo een bang gebeuren??

    #2
    Waarom moet je de ruimte hebben voor een big bang als je samen met de big bang de ruimte kunt creëren? Ik hou van alternatieve theoriën maar dan moeten ze wel een beetje onderbouwd zijn. Vooral dat stuk over de Ice Era vind ik erover.
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      #3
      Inderdaad, ijsbergen die de Big Bang lieten ontstaan? En wat heeft het met Tempel-1 te maken? Sorry Ph, ik zie ab-so-luut niets in deze theorie.
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        #4
        Ik sluit me helemaal bij Jefke en Damatrix aan.
        Ik zie de link trouwens niet tussen de Big Bang en Tempel 1 niet.....
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          #5
          Sry.....ik zie ook niet echt wat de link is......alleen dat het me intresseerde dat men het over twee bigbangs heeft.

          ik zal alvast eens kijken of ik nog meer info over twee bigbangs kan vinden, dan plaats ik het wel.

          Maar de link tussen de komeet tempel en die twee bigbangs zie ik ook niet direckt...ik dacht al dat ik de enige was dus bijdeze.

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            #6
            Origineel geplaatst door Philip
            Sry.....ik zie ook niet echt wat de link is......alleen dat het me intresseerde dat men het over twee bigbangs heeft.

            Haha! Ik verwachte een of andere (vergezochte) theorie van je te krijgen. :toothy7:
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              #7
              Heb net gelezen dat de ruimte misschien toch wel al bestond voor de big bang.
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                #8
                De ruimte of heb je het over andere heelallen?
                Waar heb je het trouwens gelezen als ik vragen mag?
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                  #9
                  Volgens mij zijn er om de haverklap big bangs.

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                    #10
                    *KNAL*
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                      #11
                      Tijd: 08 Feb 2006 | 18:52 u.

                      Dat was er inderdaad weer "één".

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                        #12
                        Origineel geplaatst door Damatrix
                        *KNAL*
                        Er zit wel een reukje aan je big bang uke:

                        Dat er maar 1 ruimte is en dat er dus meerdere big bangs in zouden kunnen voorkomen. Wie had er dat hier onlangs nog gezegd. :violent1: :violent1: :violent1:
                        Ik heb het gelezen in SKy at Night. Leuk boekje met interessante reviews. Ga ik wel meer kopen. :applaus:
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                          #13
                          Origineel geplaatst door Jefke
                          Dat er maar 1 ruimte is en dat er dus meerdere big bangs in zouden kunnen voorkomen.
                          Hoe bedoel je met in?

                          Als aangenomen wordt dat er voor een big bang niets is, dan moet er een "iets" zijn wat die big bang teweeg heeft bracht. En dan is er geen sprake van 1 of dezelfde ruimte, maar een andere dimensie of zoiets die gecreëerd is. En die "iets" was weer op zijn beurt een big bang uit het niets van iets, etc.

                          Je kunt geen niets hebben als er geen iets is.

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                            #14
                            Tja, ik ga blijkbaar snel naar de kant van Ph op. Er wordt inderdaad "aangenomen" door sommige kosmologen dat de ruimte geceëerd is samen met de big bang. Volgens anderen niet en die zijn nog altijd niet in hun ongelijk gesteld. Het niets kan ook iets zijn. Je kan een beetje vergelijken met een glas cola. De cola is de ruimte en de belletjes zijn big bangs, maar ze komen voor in 1 heelal (de cola).
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                              #15
                              Er zijn dus oneindig nietsen die bestaan in het oneindige iets, die iets kunnen worden. Maar dan telkens weer iets in een andere dimensie. :albino:

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